County MP says travellers are "making a mockery" out of Worcestershire

Evesham Journal: MP: Sir Peter Luff, who represents Mid-Worcestershire MP: Sir Peter Luff, who represents Mid-Worcestershire

TOO many travellers are coming to Worcestershire and "making a mockery" of the county, according to an MP.

Sir Peter Luff says he is "deeply concerned" about the number of times travellers are exploiting loopholes in the law and targeting parts of the county.

The Conservative, who represents Mid-Worcestershire, says areas like the Berry Hill industrial estate in Droitwich and Ombersley Way are used too often as temporary locations despite concerns about the clean-up costs, safety of the travellers and security of nearby businesses.

He also says Government laws are not going far enough as many travellers often work around the law to stay as long as they can.

"Sadly the A38 is a road that has been particularly popular with travellers for decades, hence the frequency of the problems we face in Droitwich," he said.

"The real difficulty is in legislating against such behaviour .

"When a group of people know how to work their way round the law and are determined to do so, it is very hard to prevent or catch them in criminal acts without deploying a huge and very expensive level of resource from the police or unintentionally infringing other people's rights.

"Society does depend on a level of shared responsibility and this is something these travellers manifestly do not have."

Mr Luff, a Conservative, has contacted West Mercia Police and Wychavon District Council to stage fresh talks over the current powers on dealing with travellers and what can be done to beef up the law.

Under The Caravan Sites Act 1968 councils can obtain a court order to evict them from any publicly-owned land, but only once it first gives them four weeks notice to quit voluntarily.

A group were in the county as recently as 10 days ago, pitching up at Victoria Park in Malvern Link.

They left voluntarily last week, before Malvern Town Council had to force them out.

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3:03pm Fri 27 Jun 14

pudniw_gib says...

I remember writing to Mr Luff many years ago about travellers after one of his tirades against travellers. In that case it was against the new age convoy types in particular.
The Tory record on traveller related politics has been pretty unpleasant. Not only has there been a concerted effort to remove the sites and block off park up places, but let us not forget that next year is the 30th anniversary of the Battle of the Beanfield where the police violently stopped a festival convoy, destroying homes, beating innocent people and killing dogs.
There has to be measures to deal with trouble makers and fly tippers in the travelling community but there has to be a fair treatment policy for these people, they have been here for generations working the land and the like. Many are citizens of the UK.
I remember writing to Mr Luff many years ago about travellers after one of his tirades against travellers. In that case it was against the new age convoy types in particular. The Tory record on traveller related politics has been pretty unpleasant. Not only has there been a concerted effort to remove the sites and block off park up places, but let us not forget that next year is the 30th anniversary of the Battle of the Beanfield where the police violently stopped a festival convoy, destroying homes, beating innocent people and killing dogs. There has to be measures to deal with trouble makers and fly tippers in the travelling community but there has to be a fair treatment policy for these people, they have been here for generations working the land and the like. Many are citizens of the UK. pudniw_gib
  • Score: -6

3:20pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Rita Jelfs says...

It took me a while to understand his code. But with the UKIP on the up, and the possibility of winning an election, Mr Luff is 'dog whistling', to the less rational and xenophobic in his electorate, who appear likely to support the UKIP. The Government is getting very, very worried, and appears to be splashing money in the right places, to hope change the economic landcape.
It took me a while to understand his code. But with the UKIP on the up, and the possibility of winning an election, Mr Luff is 'dog whistling', to the less rational and xenophobic in his electorate, who appear likely to support the UKIP. The Government is getting very, very worried, and appears to be splashing money in the right places, to hope change the economic landcape. Rita Jelfs
  • Score: -6

4:45pm Fri 27 Jun 14

The Villan says...

The travelling community would be wise to realise that many people don't object to their lifestyle choice. What they object to is the amount of rubbish, human waste etc. that they leave behind. They also object to locks on barriers being cut to gain access.

Travellers please respect the areas you stay in, respect the law of the land and your temporary neighbours. Then, and only then, will the general public respect your life choice.
The travelling community would be wise to realise that many people don't object to their lifestyle choice. What they object to is the amount of rubbish, human waste etc. that they leave behind. They also object to locks on barriers being cut to gain access. Travellers please respect the areas you stay in, respect the law of the land and your temporary neighbours. Then, and only then, will the general public respect your life choice. The Villan
  • Score: 13

5:11pm Fri 27 Jun 14

dropkick55 says...

"Making a mockery" out of Worcestershire, surely that's the Tory's and the likes of Alan turncoat Amos sucking up to anyone that gets them in power!
"Making a mockery" out of Worcestershire, surely that's the Tory's and the likes of Alan turncoat Amos sucking up to anyone that gets them in power! dropkick55
  • Score: 6

6:32pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Hugh Wattmate says...

I got a brilliant idea using the Tory way. You could turn all the people without jobs into slaves and get them to clean up for FREE. Then you would be paying less and giving these jobless folk "Work Experience".

It cuts down on paid jobs, gives the jobless "Experience" and saves you a fortune..

/end sarcasm
I got a brilliant idea using the Tory way. You could turn all the people without jobs into slaves and get them to clean up for FREE. Then you would be paying less and giving these jobless folk "Work Experience". It cuts down on paid jobs, gives the jobless "Experience" and saves you a fortune.. /end sarcasm Hugh Wattmate
  • Score: 4

9:41pm Fri 27 Jun 14

pinkfluff says...

pudniw_gib wrote:
I remember writing to Mr Luff many years ago about travellers after one of his tirades against travellers. In that case it was against the new age convoy types in particular.
The Tory record on traveller related politics has been pretty unpleasant. Not only has there been a concerted effort to remove the sites and block off park up places, but let us not forget that next year is the 30th anniversary of the Battle of the Beanfield where the police violently stopped a festival convoy, destroying homes, beating innocent people and killing dogs.
There has to be measures to deal with trouble makers and fly tippers in the travelling community but there has to be a fair treatment policy for these people, they have been here for generations working the land and the like. Many are citizens of the UK.
LIKE
[quote][p][bold]pudniw_gib[/bold] wrote: I remember writing to Mr Luff many years ago about travellers after one of his tirades against travellers. In that case it was against the new age convoy types in particular. The Tory record on traveller related politics has been pretty unpleasant. Not only has there been a concerted effort to remove the sites and block off park up places, but let us not forget that next year is the 30th anniversary of the Battle of the Beanfield where the police violently stopped a festival convoy, destroying homes, beating innocent people and killing dogs. There has to be measures to deal with trouble makers and fly tippers in the travelling community but there has to be a fair treatment policy for these people, they have been here for generations working the land and the like. Many are citizens of the UK.[/p][/quote]LIKE pinkfluff
  • Score: -1

11:16pm Fri 27 Jun 14

WorcsBornandBred says...

Mr Luff is starting his pre-election propaganda early again this year!
Mr Luff is starting his pre-election propaganda early again this year! WorcsBornandBred
  • Score: 5

2:53am Sat 28 Jun 14

ACBLive says...

There is a very simple solution which I remember they late, Worcestershire County Councillor, Edward (Ted) Sheldon telling me that Britain should adopt the same legislation as Southern Ireland. Namely, that all traveller encampments on private land should be legislated as illegal unless that landowner has given their permission. That what happened in Ireland and thats the reason for the massive influx. We could legislate in the same way ~ Why don't we?!
There is a very simple solution which I remember they late, Worcestershire County Councillor, Edward (Ted) Sheldon telling me that Britain should adopt the same legislation as Southern Ireland. Namely, that all traveller encampments on private land should be legislated as illegal unless that landowner has given their permission. That what happened in Ireland and thats the reason for the massive influx. We could legislate in the same way ~ Why don't we?! ACBLive
  • Score: 0

2:58am Sat 28 Jun 14

ACBLive says...

There is a very simple solution which I remember the late, Worcestershire County Councillor, Edward (Ted) Sheldon telling me, that Britain should adopt the same legislation as Southern Ireland. Namely, that all traveller encampments on private land should be legislated as illegal unless the landowner has given their permission. That's what happened in Ireland and thats the reason for the massive exodus from Southern Ireland to Britain. We're the only ones with the sense of fair play for the under dog to tolerate invasion of private land and leave the landowner to get a costly court order at their own cost. We could legislate in the same way as Southern Ireland ~ Why don't we?!
There is a very simple solution which I remember the late, Worcestershire County Councillor, Edward (Ted) Sheldon telling me, that Britain should adopt the same legislation as Southern Ireland. Namely, that all traveller encampments on private land should be legislated as illegal unless the landowner has given their permission. That's what happened in Ireland and thats the reason for the massive exodus from Southern Ireland to Britain. We're the only ones with the sense of fair play for the under dog to tolerate invasion of private land and leave the landowner to get a costly court order at their own cost. We could legislate in the same way as Southern Ireland ~ Why don't we?! ACBLive
  • Score: -1

6:10am Sun 29 Jun 14

Rita Jelfs says...

ACBLive wrote:
There is a very simple solution which I remember the late, Worcestershire County Councillor, Edward (Ted) Sheldon telling me, that Britain should adopt the same legislation as Southern Ireland. Namely, that all traveller encampments on private land should be legislated as illegal unless the landowner has given their permission. That's what happened in Ireland and thats the reason for the massive exodus from Southern Ireland to Britain. We're the only ones with the sense of fair play for the under dog to tolerate invasion of private land and leave the landowner to get a costly court order at their own cost. We could legislate in the same way as Southern Ireland ~ Why don't we?!
Mr Luff uses words like 'make a mockery of us', 'these people', 'criminal acts', 'work around the law' which implies travellers are also devious. ( I was reminded of rorting politicians, corrupt Banks and the morally bankrupt financial industry in the UK). He then Mr Luff goes on to say that when asked by the Police, the travellers left voluntarily. But nevertheless, Mr Luff contacted West Mercia Police for "fresh talks over the current powers". I'd say the current powers work. So, why did he need to issue a Press Release - just to publicise some pejorative words about travellers. He could have gone quietly about his job as an MP. But he chose the 'dog whistle' because it works. Expect more
[quote][p][bold]ACBLive[/bold] wrote: There is a very simple solution which I remember the late, Worcestershire County Councillor, Edward (Ted) Sheldon telling me, that Britain should adopt the same legislation as Southern Ireland. Namely, that all traveller encampments on private land should be legislated as illegal unless the landowner has given their permission. That's what happened in Ireland and thats the reason for the massive exodus from Southern Ireland to Britain. We're the only ones with the sense of fair play for the under dog to tolerate invasion of private land and leave the landowner to get a costly court order at their own cost. We could legislate in the same way as Southern Ireland ~ Why don't we?![/p][/quote]Mr Luff uses words like 'make a mockery of us', 'these people', 'criminal acts', 'work around the law' which implies travellers are also devious. ( I was reminded of rorting politicians, corrupt Banks and the morally bankrupt financial industry in the UK). He then Mr Luff goes on to say that when asked by the Police, the travellers left voluntarily. But nevertheless, Mr Luff contacted West Mercia Police for "fresh talks over the current powers". I'd say the current powers work. So, why did he need to issue a Press Release - just to publicise some pejorative words about travellers. He could have gone quietly about his job as an MP. But he chose the 'dog whistle' because it works. Expect more Rita Jelfs
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