Travellers set up camp at university sports arena

Evesham Journal: 2714641601. 04/07/14. Police have closed the entrance to the Worcester Arena after travellers moved onto the site. Picture by Nick Toogood. (7878705) 2714641601. 04/07/14. Police have closed the entrance to the Worcester Arena after travellers moved onto the site. Picture by Nick Toogood. (7878705)

A GROUP of travellers have parked in the grounds of the University of Worcester's sports arena at Hylton Road.

Police officers have been on duty at the entrance to the Worcester Arena after the travellers were reported to be parking up on the site on Wednesday, July 2.

Yesterday evening, the university issued a statement saying: "All University of Worcester sites are open as usual. The university is working alongside the authorities to resolve this matter."

The arena, which can seat up to 2,000, opened in April 2013 and is home to the of Worcester Wolves basketball team, as well as being a national centre of excellence for disability sports.

On Sunday, it is the venue for the Central England 18th Open Karate Championships, organised by the English Karate Federation.

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9:08am Sat 5 Jul 14

Pomygranit says...

On the St Johns Campus as well.

Why do the Police not protect other private landowners in a similar manner?
On the St Johns Campus as well. Why do the Police not protect other private landowners in a similar manner? Pomygranit
  • Score: 51

9:10am Sat 5 Jul 14

robbo1664 says...

They set up camp on january 2nd and your just printing the story now.....thats why i don't buy your S**t newspaper
They set up camp on january 2nd and your just printing the story now.....thats why i don't buy your S**t newspaper robbo1664
  • Score: 38

9:27am Sat 5 Jul 14

mrloverman says...

Wakey wakey Worcester news!! On your own doorstep as well. Hylton Road must be the most news reported road in Worcester,but you still missed this for a couple of days? If you pull your fingers out , people might start buying this once decent paper again.
Wakey wakey Worcester news!! On your own doorstep as well. Hylton Road must be the most news reported road in Worcester,but you still missed this for a couple of days? If you pull your fingers out , people might start buying this once decent paper again. mrloverman
  • Score: 42

9:30am Sat 5 Jul 14

voledog says...

robbo1664 wrote:
They set up camp on january 2nd and your just printing the story now.....thats why i don't buy your S**t newspaper
It's worse than that. January 2nd wasn't even a Wednesday this year. This must have been 2013! Or it may just be that the laziness displayed with the journalism at the Worcester News also extends to someone not being bothered to turn over the pages on their desktop calendar.
[quote][p][bold]robbo1664[/bold] wrote: They set up camp on january 2nd and your just printing the story now.....thats why i don't buy your S**t newspaper[/p][/quote]It's worse than that. January 2nd wasn't even a Wednesday this year. This must have been 2013! Or it may just be that the laziness displayed with the journalism at the Worcester News also extends to someone not being bothered to turn over the pages on their desktop calendar. voledog
  • Score: 21

9:40am Sat 5 Jul 14

brooksider says...

Pomygranit wrote:
On the St Johns Campus as well.

Why do the Police not protect other private landowners in a similar manner?
Hopefully now that West Mercia have set a precedent, we will see our local taxpayer fund police service protect our property.

Recently West Mercia refused to assist removing travellers that stopped a factory from operating despite Inspector Stephen Brooker confirming the police did have powers to remove travellers.
"
[quote][p][bold]Pomygranit[/bold] wrote: On the St Johns Campus as well. Why do the Police not protect other private landowners in a similar manner?[/p][/quote]Hopefully now that West Mercia have set a precedent, we will see our local taxpayer fund police service protect our property. Recently West Mercia refused to assist removing travellers that stopped a factory from operating despite Inspector Stephen Brooker confirming the police did have powers to remove travellers. " brooksider
  • Score: 35

9:41am Sat 5 Jul 14

CJH says...

Perhaps the editor could make some sort of statement to explain the growing number of mistakes in this paper? Because it's definitely getting worse.
Perhaps the editor could make some sort of statement to explain the growing number of mistakes in this paper? Because it's definitely getting worse. CJH
  • Score: 36

9:46am Sat 5 Jul 14

jovialcommonsense says...

CJH wrote:
Perhaps the editor could make some sort of statement to explain the growing number of mistakes in this paper? Because it's definitely getting worse.
I've reported this post CJH.
Hopefully the editor will now see it :-)
[quote][p][bold]CJH[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the editor could make some sort of statement to explain the growing number of mistakes in this paper? Because it's definitely getting worse.[/p][/quote]I've reported this post CJH. Hopefully the editor will now see it :-) jovialcommonsense
  • Score: 18

9:51am Sat 5 Jul 14

presterjohn says...

The WN are not only days late with this important story. They have not mentioned the massive increase in burglaries over the last few days. They have also got most of the story wrong. The police have not been manning the Arena The University staff have. The police have turned up on occasion to pass on information and to keep in touch with the situation. As has also been mentioned by others caravans have also now moved to the St. Johns campus. Half of St. Johns already know the full story about all this it is just the WN that has been late to the party as usual.
The WN are not only days late with this important story. They have not mentioned the massive increase in burglaries over the last few days. They have also got most of the story wrong. The police have not been manning the Arena The University staff have. The police have turned up on occasion to pass on information and to keep in touch with the situation. As has also been mentioned by others caravans have also now moved to the St. Johns campus. Half of St. Johns already know the full story about all this it is just the WN that has been late to the party as usual. presterjohn
  • Score: 28

10:38am Sat 5 Jul 14

CJH says...

They may want to move on before the Karate experts get there on Sunday...
They may want to move on before the Karate experts get there on Sunday... CJH
  • Score: 20

10:39am Sat 5 Jul 14

elsazjoie says...

Saw this going on yesterday when on the school run. A traveller turned up at the campus and just drove straight in despite the amount of police standing around- Also noticed down by the arena lots of police/ cars, barrier was shut so that's why they bailed on the campus ground I guess as they seem to just drive straight in.... Madness
Saw this going on yesterday when on the school run. A traveller turned up at the campus and just drove straight in despite the amount of police standing around- Also noticed down by the arena lots of police/ cars, barrier was shut so that's why they bailed on the campus ground I guess as they seem to just drive straight in.... Madness elsazjoie
  • Score: 18

12:24pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Hanskrankel says...

Looking at the registration numbers on these top of the range cars / caravans it looks like the same foreigners who for the past 2 or 3 years have set up camp on the car park next to the Swan Theatre. Think there excuse then was they were here for a 'family wedding'. The authorities decided to do nothing then, so no doubt another visit to our city makes common sense to these people. Can the police not just use the lorries that are often seen lifting joe public's cars off the street for minor parking offences to clear these offending vehicles away? If they don't pay up to get them released then crush them! Job done
Looking at the registration numbers on these top of the range cars / caravans it looks like the same foreigners who for the past 2 or 3 years have set up camp on the car park next to the Swan Theatre. Think there excuse then was they were here for a 'family wedding'. The authorities decided to do nothing then, so no doubt another visit to our city makes common sense to these people. Can the police not just use the lorries that are often seen lifting joe public's cars off the street for minor parking offences to clear these offending vehicles away? If they don't pay up to get them released then crush them! Job done Hanskrankel
  • Score: 39

2:10pm Sat 5 Jul 14

presterjohn says...

Hanskrankel wrote:
Looking at the registration numbers on these top of the range cars / caravans it looks like the same foreigners who for the past 2 or 3 years have set up camp on the car park next to the Swan Theatre. Think there excuse then was they were here for a 'family wedding'. The authorities decided to do nothing then, so no doubt another visit to our city makes common sense to these people. Can the police not just use the lorries that are often seen lifting joe public's cars off the street for minor parking offences to clear these offending vehicles away? If they don't pay up to get them released then crush them! Job done
No I think this lot were fresh to the area. Mostly Irish plates on the vehicles and on arrival into the town had trouble with the layout of the city.
[quote][p][bold]Hanskrankel[/bold] wrote: Looking at the registration numbers on these top of the range cars / caravans it looks like the same foreigners who for the past 2 or 3 years have set up camp on the car park next to the Swan Theatre. Think there excuse then was they were here for a 'family wedding'. The authorities decided to do nothing then, so no doubt another visit to our city makes common sense to these people. Can the police not just use the lorries that are often seen lifting joe public's cars off the street for minor parking offences to clear these offending vehicles away? If they don't pay up to get them released then crush them! Job done[/p][/quote]No I think this lot were fresh to the area. Mostly Irish plates on the vehicles and on arrival into the town had trouble with the layout of the city. presterjohn
  • Score: 5

2:40pm Sat 5 Jul 14

tryuk says...

What a refreshing change this is. The university having to deal with parking instead of the residents.
What a refreshing change this is. The university having to deal with parking instead of the residents. tryuk
  • Score: 31

2:41pm Sat 5 Jul 14

The Villan says...

jovialcommonsense wrote:
CJH wrote:
Perhaps the editor could make some sort of statement to explain the growing number of mistakes in this paper? Because it's definitely getting worse.
I've reported this post CJH.
Hopefully the editor will now see it :-)
It's suppose to be July 2nd, which was last Wednesday. Looks like he proof reader wasn't doing their job!
[quote][p][bold]jovialcommonsense[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CJH[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the editor could make some sort of statement to explain the growing number of mistakes in this paper? Because it's definitely getting worse.[/p][/quote]I've reported this post CJH. Hopefully the editor will now see it :-)[/p][/quote]It's suppose to be July 2nd, which was last Wednesday. Looks like he proof reader wasn't doing their job! The Villan
  • Score: 10

3:05pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Hwicce says...

Just looks like the police are being their usual weak and ineffectual selves as usual.

By law, the police have the power to direct you to leave and remove your vehicles if:

-there are two or more people who intend to reside on the land without the owner's permission, and

-there are six or more vehicles parked on the land, or

-of the people on the land have damaged the land or any property on the land in some way (this doesn't need to be extensive damage - it can include taking wood for a fire), or

-any of the people on the land have behaved in a threatening, abusive or insulting way towards the landowner or occupier or members of their family or their employees, and

-the landowner or occupier has asked you to leave.

The decision to direct you to leave must be made by a ‘senior police officer’ who is actually present on the land.
Just looks like the police are being their usual weak and ineffectual selves as usual. By law, the police have the power to direct you to leave and remove your vehicles if: -there are two or more people who intend to reside on the land without the owner's permission, and -there are six or more vehicles parked on the land, or -of the people on the land have damaged the land or any property on the land in some way (this doesn't need to be extensive damage - it can include taking wood for a fire), or -any of the people on the land have behaved in a threatening, abusive or insulting way towards the landowner or occupier or members of their family or their employees, and -the landowner or occupier has asked you to leave. The decision to direct you to leave must be made by a ‘senior police officer’ who is actually present on the land. Hwicce
  • Score: 26

3:25pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Intrested in news storys says...

Again bad reporting police did not wish to know staff received little assistance ,also police Sargent Webster threatened to arrest university security staff for doing their duties on site. This should re-written and police shamed..
Again bad reporting police did not wish to know staff received little assistance ,also police Sargent Webster threatened to arrest university security staff for doing their duties on site. This should re-written and police shamed.. Intrested in news storys
  • Score: 22

3:44pm Sat 5 Jul 14

uncivil says...

These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.
These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be. uncivil
  • Score: -95

4:57pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Pomygranit says...

Intrested in news storys wrote:
Again bad reporting police did not wish to know staff received little assistance ,also police Sargent Webster threatened to arrest university security staff for doing their duties on site. This should re-written and police shamed..
Factually incorrect.
Threaten with arrest for doing something that was not part of their official duties
[quote][p][bold]Intrested in news storys[/bold] wrote: Again bad reporting police did not wish to know staff received little assistance ,also police Sargent Webster threatened to arrest university security staff for doing their duties on site. This should re-written and police shamed..[/p][/quote]Factually incorrect. Threaten with arrest for doing something that was not part of their official duties Pomygranit
  • Score: -6

6:11pm Sat 5 Jul 14

brooksider says...

uncivil wrote:
These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.
Being nomadic doesn't give anyone the right to trespass.
[quote][p][bold]uncivil[/bold] wrote: These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.[/p][/quote]Being nomadic doesn't give anyone the right to trespass. brooksider
  • Score: 52

6:12pm Sat 5 Jul 14

presterjohn says...

Pomygranit wrote:
Intrested in news storys wrote:
Again bad reporting police did not wish to know staff received little assistance ,also police Sargent Webster threatened to arrest university security staff for doing their duties on site. This should re-written and police shamed..
Factually incorrect.
Threaten with arrest for doing something that was not part of their official duties
Factually incorrect they were threatened with arrest for doing normal duties. Fire alarm testing is done every single day at the University. You could argue that the timing was unfortunate for 'local' residence though.
[quote][p][bold]Pomygranit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Intrested in news storys[/bold] wrote: Again bad reporting police did not wish to know staff received little assistance ,also police Sargent Webster threatened to arrest university security staff for doing their duties on site. This should re-written and police shamed..[/p][/quote]Factually incorrect. Threaten with arrest for doing something that was not part of their official duties[/p][/quote]Factually incorrect they were threatened with arrest for doing normal duties. Fire alarm testing is done every single day at the University. You could argue that the timing was unfortunate for 'local' residence though. presterjohn
  • Score: 13

6:35pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Worcesterfan says...

uncivil wrote:
These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.
Seriously?? When the mess they leave behind is left to clear up by us tax payers, not to mention the poor people that have to clean up human waste!!! If they didn't leave such mess and people didn't feel like it was one rule for us, another for them, then perhaps we would be welcoming!!
[quote][p][bold]uncivil[/bold] wrote: These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.[/p][/quote]Seriously?? When the mess they leave behind is left to clear up by us tax payers, not to mention the poor people that have to clean up human waste!!! If they didn't leave such mess and people didn't feel like it was one rule for us, another for them, then perhaps we would be welcoming!! Worcesterfan
  • Score: 48

8:08pm Sat 5 Jul 14

bmoc55 says...

Complete the following sentence:

West Mercia police are unwillling to move these scumbag travellers on because,

they are too politically correct
they are weak
they want to avoid confontation
they are useless
Complete the following sentence: West Mercia police are unwillling to move these scumbag travellers on because, they are too politically correct they are weak they want to avoid confontation they are useless bmoc55
  • Score: 30

8:31pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Jabbadad says...

Quite amazing how some folk come on here and defend these travellers, when really they are making the people angry by their actions. Just last sunday I went to Argos on Blackpole and there was a travellers lorry (and it was a Travllers lorry / truck) parked right outside the doorway in the disabled parking and showing NO BLUE BADGE. As I was about to move off a very large Man and an even larger woman (lardy), with no shoppimg, came out of Argos, casually climed into the truck and drove off.
Well whatever language they speak (apart from up yours and the Law) the Disabled symbol is the Same the World over. They just have a total disrespect for the law and other peoples property, which they invariably steal, and until the laws are changed whereby their PRECIOUS TRUCKS are confiscated, nothing will change. They really need stopping don't they, and we can't expect the police to have all the hassle when all they have to use are questionable piffy laws.
Quite amazing how some folk come on here and defend these travellers, when really they are making the people angry by their actions. Just last sunday I went to Argos on Blackpole and there was a travellers lorry (and it was a Travllers lorry / truck) parked right outside the doorway in the disabled parking and showing NO BLUE BADGE. As I was about to move off a very large Man and an even larger woman (lardy), with no shoppimg, came out of Argos, casually climed into the truck and drove off. Well whatever language they speak (apart from up yours and the Law) the Disabled symbol is the Same the World over. They just have a total disrespect for the law and other peoples property, which they invariably steal, and until the laws are changed whereby their PRECIOUS TRUCKS are confiscated, nothing will change. They really need stopping don't they, and we can't expect the police to have all the hassle when all they have to use are questionable piffy laws. Jabbadad
  • Score: 29

9:18pm Sat 5 Jul 14

pinkfluff says...

uncivil wrote:
These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.
Try to forgive the comments....they have hearts full of hate and their faces buried in the daily mail.
[quote][p][bold]uncivil[/bold] wrote: These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.[/p][/quote]Try to forgive the comments....they have hearts full of hate and their faces buried in the daily mail. pinkfluff
  • Score: -33

9:54pm Sat 5 Jul 14

citykid says...

Hanskrankel wrote:
Looking at the registration numbers on these top of the range cars / caravans it looks like the same foreigners who for the past 2 or 3 years have set up camp on the car park next to the Swan Theatre. Think there excuse then was they were here for a 'family wedding'. The authorities decided to do nothing then, so no doubt another visit to our city makes common sense to these people. Can the police not just use the lorries that are often seen lifting joe public's cars off the street for minor parking offences to clear these offending vehicles away? If they don't pay up to get them released then crush them! Job done
I agree as if checked they will find most not taxed or insured, and no doubt some have no license. Still the police not bothered as they are frightened of them, bet they would soon be moved if they camped at hindlip!!!!! U get more news concerning Worcester in the malvern gazette better paper
[quote][p][bold]Hanskrankel[/bold] wrote: Looking at the registration numbers on these top of the range cars / caravans it looks like the same foreigners who for the past 2 or 3 years have set up camp on the car park next to the Swan Theatre. Think there excuse then was they were here for a 'family wedding'. The authorities decided to do nothing then, so no doubt another visit to our city makes common sense to these people. Can the police not just use the lorries that are often seen lifting joe public's cars off the street for minor parking offences to clear these offending vehicles away? If they don't pay up to get them released then crush them! Job done[/p][/quote]I agree as if checked they will find most not taxed or insured, and no doubt some have no license. Still the police not bothered as they are frightened of them, bet they would soon be moved if they camped at hindlip!!!!! U get more news concerning Worcester in the malvern gazette better paper citykid
  • Score: 25

11:10pm Sat 5 Jul 14

DarrenM says...

presterjohn wrote:
Pomygranit wrote:
Intrested in news storys wrote:
Again bad reporting police did not wish to know staff received little assistance ,also police Sargent Webster threatened to arrest university security staff for doing their duties on site. This should re-written and police shamed..
Factually incorrect.
Threaten with arrest for doing something that was not part of their official duties
Factually incorrect they were threatened with arrest for doing normal duties. Fire alarm testing is done every single day at the University. You could argue that the timing was unfortunate for 'local' residence though.
Why don't they make a complaint to the IPCC for misconduct in a public office , or is it illegal to test fire alarms on your own property now?
[quote][p][bold]presterjohn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pomygranit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Intrested in news storys[/bold] wrote: Again bad reporting police did not wish to know staff received little assistance ,also police Sargent Webster threatened to arrest university security staff for doing their duties on site. This should re-written and police shamed..[/p][/quote]Factually incorrect. Threaten with arrest for doing something that was not part of their official duties[/p][/quote]Factually incorrect they were threatened with arrest for doing normal duties. Fire alarm testing is done every single day at the University. You could argue that the timing was unfortunate for 'local' residence though.[/p][/quote]Why don't they make a complaint to the IPCC for misconduct in a public office , or is it illegal to test fire alarms on your own property now? DarrenM
  • Score: 13

9:23am Sun 6 Jul 14

rosepul says...

uncivil wrote:
These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.
You wouldn't like to have to clean up the awful mess that these people leave behind!!!! They are dirty and disgusting.
[quote][p][bold]uncivil[/bold] wrote: These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.[/p][/quote]You wouldn't like to have to clean up the awful mess that these people leave behind!!!! They are dirty and disgusting. rosepul
  • Score: 20

9:24am Sun 6 Jul 14

CROE1_13 says...

Right..... First of all? Where was I in this picture? The police only came on a couple of occasions to tell us that ''they are coming'' (aka Gandalf style) then left on their jolly journey back to the precinct.
I believe they cannot leave till Tuesday and since Friday afternoon I have only seen the police once. The Security of University of Worcester have been there day and night manning the gates from invaders. They also treated themselves to a spot of food however, they couldn't leave the premises day or night. This shows the commitment and determination of these fellow workers. The invaders ''SHALL NOT PASS!!!''
Any information please feel free to ask. Thank you.
Right..... First of all? Where was I in this picture? The police only came on a couple of occasions to tell us that ''they are coming'' (aka Gandalf style) then left on their jolly journey back to the precinct. I believe they cannot leave till Tuesday and since Friday afternoon I have only seen the police once. The Security of University of Worcester have been there day and night manning the gates from invaders. They also treated themselves to a spot of food however, they couldn't leave the premises day or night. This shows the commitment and determination of these fellow workers. The invaders ''SHALL NOT PASS!!!'' Any information please feel free to ask. Thank you. CROE1_13
  • Score: 26

11:44am Sun 6 Jul 14

Worcesterfan says...

pinkfluff wrote:
uncivil wrote:
These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.
Try to forgive the comments....they have hearts full of hate and their faces buried in the daily mail.
So you wouldn't mind if they set up camp in your back garden and you were left to clean up after them then?
[quote][p][bold]pinkfluff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]uncivil[/bold] wrote: These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.[/p][/quote]Try to forgive the comments....they have hearts full of hate and their faces buried in the daily mail.[/p][/quote]So you wouldn't mind if they set up camp in your back garden and you were left to clean up after them then? Worcesterfan
  • Score: 29

12:56pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Ted Elgar says...

Ah yes, their charming way of life.. nicking bikes, mass trespass and leaving big heaps of rubbish everywhere they go.
Ah yes, their charming way of life.. nicking bikes, mass trespass and leaving big heaps of rubbish everywhere they go. Ted Elgar
  • Score: 30

3:15pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Perfman says...

pinknuff is probably one of them!
pinknuff is probably one of them! Perfman
  • Score: 9

6:27pm Sun 6 Jul 14

sunnside says...

uncivil wrote:
These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.
if they paid their taxes and had respect for others then may be worcester would welcome them but until then they should be shipped out and never again allowed to visit this wonderful city
[quote][p][bold]uncivil[/bold] wrote: These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.[/p][/quote]if they paid their taxes and had respect for others then may be worcester would welcome them but until then they should be shipped out and never again allowed to visit this wonderful city sunnside
  • Score: 19

6:28pm Sun 6 Jul 14

uncivil says...

A recent study in the Travellers Times suggested that thefts and crime in general reduced dramatically when travelers occupied an area. I think its down to solid family and christan values. I look forward to channel 4' s latest documentary to prove the majority wrong.
A recent study in the Travellers Times suggested that thefts and crime in general reduced dramatically when travelers occupied an area. I think its down to solid family and christan values. I look forward to channel 4' s latest documentary to prove the majority wrong. uncivil
  • Score: -35

7:21pm Sun 6 Jul 14

presterjohn says...

uncivil wrote:
A recent study in the Travellers Times suggested that thefts and crime in general reduced dramatically when travelers occupied an area. I think its down to solid family and christan values. I look forward to channel 4' s latest documentary to prove the majority wrong.
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Gypsies have been on the periphery of my life for the last 40 or so years one way or another. A couple of have been friends many have been acquaintances. Apart from the one who did not really grow up in the culture at all I would not have trusted any of them with my stuff though. I am sure the honest traveler exists, and I know from experience that some of them can be a good laugh and good company and will even help you out on occasion but this is not the majority and certainly not the types that drive on to property that is in use and damage it before they leave. The last half decent bunch we had in Worcester that I am aware of are the French ones we had a couple of years back. They shocked everyone by clearing up before they left and did not cause to much hassle. This lot on the Arena now are not that type. From what I have heard they are very much on the other end of the spectrum.
[quote][p][bold]uncivil[/bold] wrote: A recent study in the Travellers Times suggested that thefts and crime in general reduced dramatically when travelers occupied an area. I think its down to solid family and christan values. I look forward to channel 4' s latest documentary to prove the majority wrong.[/p][/quote]That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Gypsies have been on the periphery of my life for the last 40 or so years one way or another. A couple of have been friends many have been acquaintances. Apart from the one who did not really grow up in the culture at all I would not have trusted any of them with my stuff though. I am sure the honest traveler exists, and I know from experience that some of them can be a good laugh and good company and will even help you out on occasion but this is not the majority and certainly not the types that drive on to property that is in use and damage it before they leave. The last half decent bunch we had in Worcester that I am aware of are the French ones we had a couple of years back. They shocked everyone by clearing up before they left and did not cause to much hassle. This lot on the Arena now are not that type. From what I have heard they are very much on the other end of the spectrum. presterjohn
  • Score: 31

8:50pm Sun 6 Jul 14

DarrenM says...

Hang on, isnt there supposed to be a crack team of Elite CSO's based at the university led by another retired-PC.
Why didn't they leap into action and wave their pocket books at them? Or let me guess it was after 10pm at night or on a weekend?
Hang on, isnt there supposed to be a crack team of Elite CSO's based at the university led by another retired-PC. Why didn't they leap into action and wave their pocket books at them? Or let me guess it was after 10pm at night or on a weekend? DarrenM
  • Score: 23

10:35pm Sun 6 Jul 14

markalexander says...

Jabbadad wrote:
Quite amazing how some folk come on here and defend these travellers, when really they are making the people angry by their actions. Just last sunday I went to Argos on Blackpole and there was a travellers lorry (and it was a Travllers lorry / truck) parked right outside the doorway in the disabled parking and showing NO BLUE BADGE. As I was about to move off a very large Man and an even larger woman (lardy), with no shoppimg, came out of Argos, casually climed into the truck and drove off.
Well whatever language they speak (apart from up yours and the Law) the Disabled symbol is the Same the World over. They just have a total disrespect for the law and other peoples property, which they invariably steal, and until the laws are changed whereby their PRECIOUS TRUCKS are confiscated, nothing will change. They really need stopping don't they, and we can't expect the police to have all the hassle when all they have to use are questionable piffy laws.
Too bloody right. They need exterminating!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!1!!!1*


*=I'm not being serious. I'm okay with people who are a little different to me.
[quote][p][bold]Jabbadad[/bold] wrote: Quite amazing how some folk come on here and defend these travellers, when really they are making the people angry by their actions. Just last sunday I went to Argos on Blackpole and there was a travellers lorry (and it was a Travllers lorry / truck) parked right outside the doorway in the disabled parking and showing NO BLUE BADGE. As I was about to move off a very large Man and an even larger woman (lardy), with no shoppimg, came out of Argos, casually climed into the truck and drove off. Well whatever language they speak (apart from up yours and the Law) the Disabled symbol is the Same the World over. They just have a total disrespect for the law and other peoples property, which they invariably steal, and until the laws are changed whereby their PRECIOUS TRUCKS are confiscated, nothing will change. They really need stopping don't they, and we can't expect the police to have all the hassle when all they have to use are questionable piffy laws.[/p][/quote]Too bloody right. They need exterminating!!!!!!! !!!!!!!1!!!1* *=I'm not being serious. I'm okay with people who are a little different to me. markalexander
  • Score: 0

10:53pm Sun 6 Jul 14

The Villan says...

A serious question, rather than all the usual comments.

Why don't the council look to provide appropriate land for the travellers with waste facilities? Surely this would make sense in the long run as it would stop the travellers trespassing, stop them leaving waste for the land owner or council to clear up and stop annoyance of the local population.

We are never going to stop travellers doing what they do, so maybe a change of direction is needed.

I would ask how these travellers got on here in the first place, were the gates open or did they cut a lock?

PS. Dear Editor, the date has changed from January to June! in the story, when it should be July. Someone needs their eyes testing.
A serious question, rather than all the usual comments. Why don't the council look to provide appropriate land for the travellers with waste facilities? Surely this would make sense in the long run as it would stop the travellers trespassing, stop them leaving waste for the land owner or council to clear up and stop annoyance of the local population. We are never going to stop travellers doing what they do, so maybe a change of direction is needed. I would ask how these travellers got on here in the first place, were the gates open or did they cut a lock? PS. Dear Editor, the date has changed from January to June! in the story, when it should be July. Someone needs their eyes testing. The Villan
  • Score: 13

11:19pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Andy_R says...

The Villan wrote:
A serious question, rather than all the usual comments.

Why don't the council look to provide appropriate land for the travellers with waste facilities? Surely this would make sense in the long run as it would stop the travellers trespassing, stop them leaving waste for the land owner or council to clear up and stop annoyance of the local population.

We are never going to stop travellers doing what they do, so maybe a change of direction is needed.

I would ask how these travellers got on here in the first place, were the gates open or did they cut a lock?

PS. Dear Editor, the date has changed from January to June! in the story, when it should be July. Someone needs their eyes testing.
The Council do provide traveller sites, 9 of them, with room for 121 families.

As for how they go onto the land, they just drove onto the car park - there are no barriers there.
[quote][p][bold]The Villan [/bold] wrote: A serious question, rather than all the usual comments. Why don't the council look to provide appropriate land for the travellers with waste facilities? Surely this would make sense in the long run as it would stop the travellers trespassing, stop them leaving waste for the land owner or council to clear up and stop annoyance of the local population. We are never going to stop travellers doing what they do, so maybe a change of direction is needed. I would ask how these travellers got on here in the first place, were the gates open or did they cut a lock? PS. Dear Editor, the date has changed from January to June! in the story, when it should be July. Someone needs their eyes testing.[/p][/quote]The Council do provide traveller sites, 9 of them, with room for 121 families. As for how they go onto the land, they just drove onto the car park - there are no barriers there. Andy_R
  • Score: 12

11:31pm Sun 6 Jul 14

The Villan says...

Andy_R wrote:
The Villan wrote:
A serious question, rather than all the usual comments.

Why don't the council look to provide appropriate land for the travellers with waste facilities? Surely this would make sense in the long run as it would stop the travellers trespassing, stop them leaving waste for the land owner or council to clear up and stop annoyance of the local population.

We are never going to stop travellers doing what they do, so maybe a change of direction is needed.

I would ask how these travellers got on here in the first place, were the gates open or did they cut a lock?

PS. Dear Editor, the date has changed from January to June! in the story, when it should be July. Someone needs their eyes testing.
The Council do provide traveller sites, 9 of them, with room for 121 families.

As for how they go onto the land, they just drove onto the car park - there are no barriers there.
Thanks. Are these short stay or long stay?

Because, surely they should be short stay as that is what travellers do, they travel, they're nomadic.

If they're permanent pitches, then these aren't travellers and the sites should either be renamed/classified, with the people on these sites charged council tax etc.

They can't have it all ways.
[quote][p][bold]Andy_R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Villan [/bold] wrote: A serious question, rather than all the usual comments. Why don't the council look to provide appropriate land for the travellers with waste facilities? Surely this would make sense in the long run as it would stop the travellers trespassing, stop them leaving waste for the land owner or council to clear up and stop annoyance of the local population. We are never going to stop travellers doing what they do, so maybe a change of direction is needed. I would ask how these travellers got on here in the first place, were the gates open or did they cut a lock? PS. Dear Editor, the date has changed from January to June! in the story, when it should be July. Someone needs their eyes testing.[/p][/quote]The Council do provide traveller sites, 9 of them, with room for 121 families. As for how they go onto the land, they just drove onto the car park - there are no barriers there.[/p][/quote]Thanks. Are these short stay or long stay? Because, surely they should be short stay as that is what travellers do, they travel, they're nomadic. If they're permanent pitches, then these aren't travellers and the sites should either be renamed/classified, with the people on these sites charged council tax etc. They can't have it all ways. The Villan
  • Score: 14

2:29pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Srexworc says...

The Villan wrote:
A serious question, rather than all the usual comments.

Why don't the council look to provide appropriate land for the travellers with waste facilities? Surely this would make sense in the long run as it would stop the travellers trespassing, stop them leaving waste for the land owner or council to clear up and stop annoyance of the local population.

We are never going to stop travellers doing what they do, so maybe a change of direction is needed.

I would ask how these travellers got on here in the first place, were the gates open or did they cut a lock?

PS. Dear Editor, the date has changed from January to June! in the story, when it should be July. Someone needs their eyes testing.
And they can call it District 11. The way these travelers are managing themselves there is not much difference.
[quote][p][bold]The Villan [/bold] wrote: A serious question, rather than all the usual comments. Why don't the council look to provide appropriate land for the travellers with waste facilities? Surely this would make sense in the long run as it would stop the travellers trespassing, stop them leaving waste for the land owner or council to clear up and stop annoyance of the local population. We are never going to stop travellers doing what they do, so maybe a change of direction is needed. I would ask how these travellers got on here in the first place, were the gates open or did they cut a lock? PS. Dear Editor, the date has changed from January to June! in the story, when it should be July. Someone needs their eyes testing.[/p][/quote]And they can call it District 11. The way these travelers are managing themselves there is not much difference. Srexworc
  • Score: 4

10:40pm Mon 7 Jul 14

thesquirrel says...

The Villan wrote:
A serious question, rather than all the usual comments.

Why don't the council look to provide appropriate land for the travellers with waste facilities? Surely this would make sense in the long run as it would stop the travellers trespassing, stop them leaving waste for the land owner or council to clear up and stop annoyance of the local population.

We are never going to stop travellers doing what they do, so maybe a change of direction is needed.

I would ask how these travellers got on here in the first place, were the gates open or did they cut a lock?

PS. Dear Editor, the date has changed from January to June! in the story, when it should be July. Someone needs their eyes testing.
Upvote if you wouldn't mind land near your home made available for the benefit of travellers.

If we get double figures I'll eat my hat.
[quote][p][bold]The Villan [/bold] wrote: A serious question, rather than all the usual comments. Why don't the council look to provide appropriate land for the travellers with waste facilities? Surely this would make sense in the long run as it would stop the travellers trespassing, stop them leaving waste for the land owner or council to clear up and stop annoyance of the local population. We are never going to stop travellers doing what they do, so maybe a change of direction is needed. I would ask how these travellers got on here in the first place, were the gates open or did they cut a lock? PS. Dear Editor, the date has changed from January to June! in the story, when it should be July. Someone needs their eyes testing.[/p][/quote]Upvote if you wouldn't mind land near your home made available for the benefit of travellers. If we get double figures I'll eat my hat. thesquirrel
  • Score: 2

7:45am Tue 8 Jul 14

mistercatesby says...

The University is not open as usual as buses are no longer running through the campus. Apparently according to First buses, you can be picked up at the co op......perhaps First should tell their bus drivers that as they were happy to drive straight past those waiting.
The University is not open as usual as buses are no longer running through the campus. Apparently according to First buses, you can be picked up at the co op......perhaps First should tell their bus drivers that as they were happy to drive straight past those waiting. mistercatesby
  • Score: 3

10:40am Tue 8 Jul 14

liketoknow says...

uncivil wrote:
These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.
I don't think there is anything ''traditional'' about this. I'm pretty sure the true Romanies don't behave in this fashion.
[quote][p][bold]uncivil[/bold] wrote: These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.[/p][/quote]I don't think there is anything ''traditional'' about this. I'm pretty sure the true Romanies don't behave in this fashion. liketoknow
  • Score: 7

10:53am Tue 8 Jul 14

gypsyman1 says...

uncivil wrote:
These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.
well said its so easy to forget that travelers are human to. as for dome people trying to blame burglary's on us believe me when i say we not all of us do that, and the reason travelers was in Worcester was a funeral, i am from stourport, and some of my family was in with all this, and i must say that most of the people in Worcester were relay nice, BUT there was a good size group trying to cause trouble with them, see theirs a myth about travelers that we love trouble, but you couldn't be more wrong, yea some travelers like a fight and cause a headache but its the same with any community including settled folk.
[quote][p][bold]uncivil[/bold] wrote: These travellers are just following their way of life. I thought worcester was a welcoming place. If we attack their values we attack our own. We should welcome such diversity to the area. They travellers will soon move on following their traditional nomadic culture. Let them be.[/p][/quote]well said its so easy to forget that travelers are human to. as for dome people trying to blame burglary's on us believe me when i say we not all of us do that, and the reason travelers was in Worcester was a funeral, i am from stourport, and some of my family was in with all this, and i must say that most of the people in Worcester were relay nice, BUT there was a good size group trying to cause trouble with them, see theirs a myth about travelers that we love trouble, but you couldn't be more wrong, yea some travelers like a fight and cause a headache but its the same with any community including settled folk. gypsyman1
  • Score: -15

10:58am Tue 8 Jul 14

gypsyman1 says...

citykid wrote:
Hanskrankel wrote:
Looking at the registration numbers on these top of the range cars / caravans it looks like the same foreigners who for the past 2 or 3 years have set up camp on the car park next to the Swan Theatre. Think there excuse then was they were here for a 'family wedding'. The authorities decided to do nothing then, so no doubt another visit to our city makes common sense to these people. Can the police not just use the lorries that are often seen lifting joe public's cars off the street for minor parking offences to clear these offending vehicles away? If they don't pay up to get them released then crush them! Job done
I agree as if checked they will find most not taxed or insured, and no doubt some have no license. Still the police not bothered as they are frightened of them, bet they would soon be moved if they camped at hindlip!!!!! U get more news concerning Worcester in the malvern gazette better paper
see now u are just assuming, theirs not a traveler i know who doesn't have tax mot and insurance, think theirs more uninsured cars in Worcester from the gorgers not travelers u judgmental idiot, look at yourselves before trying to make us look bad,
[quote][p][bold]citykid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hanskrankel[/bold] wrote: Looking at the registration numbers on these top of the range cars / caravans it looks like the same foreigners who for the past 2 or 3 years have set up camp on the car park next to the Swan Theatre. Think there excuse then was they were here for a 'family wedding'. The authorities decided to do nothing then, so no doubt another visit to our city makes common sense to these people. Can the police not just use the lorries that are often seen lifting joe public's cars off the street for minor parking offences to clear these offending vehicles away? If they don't pay up to get them released then crush them! Job done[/p][/quote]I agree as if checked they will find most not taxed or insured, and no doubt some have no license. Still the police not bothered as they are frightened of them, bet they would soon be moved if they camped at hindlip!!!!! U get more news concerning Worcester in the malvern gazette better paper[/p][/quote]see now u are just assuming, theirs not a traveler i know who doesn't have tax mot and insurance, think theirs more uninsured cars in Worcester from the gorgers not travelers u judgmental idiot, look at yourselves before trying to make us look bad, gypsyman1
  • Score: -15

7:16pm Tue 8 Jul 14

pinkfluff says...

The Villan wrote:
A serious question, rather than all the usual comments.

Why don't the council look to provide appropriate land for the travellers with waste facilities? Surely this would make sense in the long run as it would stop the travellers trespassing, stop them leaving waste for the land owner or council to clear up and stop annoyance of the local population.

We are never going to stop travellers doing what they do, so maybe a change of direction is needed.

I would ask how these travellers got on here in the first place, were the gates open or did they cut a lock?

PS. Dear Editor, the date has changed from January to June! in the story, when it should be July. Someone needs their eyes testing.
90% of planning applications submitted by GRT (Gypsy, Roma, Traveller) groups are turned down. Camp sites won't take take GRT's. All this hatred goes back a long way and tbf I can see both points of view but nothing seems to change.
[quote][p][bold]The Villan [/bold] wrote: A serious question, rather than all the usual comments. Why don't the council look to provide appropriate land for the travellers with waste facilities? Surely this would make sense in the long run as it would stop the travellers trespassing, stop them leaving waste for the land owner or council to clear up and stop annoyance of the local population. We are never going to stop travellers doing what they do, so maybe a change of direction is needed. I would ask how these travellers got on here in the first place, were the gates open or did they cut a lock? PS. Dear Editor, the date has changed from January to June! in the story, when it should be July. Someone needs their eyes testing.[/p][/quote]90% of planning applications submitted by GRT (Gypsy, Roma, Traveller) groups are turned down. Camp sites won't take take GRT's. All this hatred goes back a long way and tbf I can see both points of view but nothing seems to change. pinkfluff
  • Score: 0

9:04pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Ozzy13 says...

I feel really, really sorry for Worcester University . I mean ,having to put up with all the disruption ,all the mess that will be left ,all the , oh wait a minute isn`t that what some of their students have been doing to the residents of stJohns for years . Yes really sorry .
I feel really, really sorry for Worcester University . I mean ,having to put up with all the disruption ,all the mess that will be left ,all the , oh wait a minute isn`t that what some of their students have been doing to the residents of stJohns for years . Yes really sorry . Ozzy13
  • Score: -8

1:38pm Fri 11 Jul 14

willing says...

Why doesn't our government (you know, that bunch of self-serving residents of the Westminster bubble, who don't bother listening to us while they give our country away to the EU experiment) simple kick the scavengers back to Ireland, and save the huge costs associated with their illegal encampments and thievery?
Why doesn't our government (you know, that bunch of self-serving residents of the Westminster bubble, who don't bother listening to us while they give our country away to the EU experiment) simple kick the scavengers back to Ireland, and save the huge costs associated with their illegal encampments and thievery? willing
  • Score: -2

2:07pm Fri 11 Jul 14

willing says...

Srexworc wrote:
The Villan wrote:
A serious question, rather than all the usual comments.

Why don't the council look to provide appropriate land for the travellers with waste facilities? Surely this would make sense in the long run as it would stop the travellers trespassing, stop them leaving waste for the land owner or council to clear up and stop annoyance of the local population.

We are never going to stop travellers doing what they do, so maybe a change of direction is needed.

I would ask how these travellers got on here in the first place, were the gates open or did they cut a lock?

PS. Dear Editor, the date has changed from January to June! in the story, when it should be July. Someone needs their eyes testing.
And they can call it District 11. The way these travelers are managing themselves there is not much difference.
The council already do...there's been a site near the Worcester Rugby Club.

The question is, how many sites are Councils expected to provide, and at whose expense? Do travellers pay tax on their earnings, or pay Council Tax? If not, then why should communities be obliged to pay for amenities for people who simply break the law if they don't?

As usual, if the weak and useless government had the sense to turn these people around and send them back to Ireland when they arrived, this discussion and the associated problems would not be the topic of discussion year after year.
[quote][p][bold]Srexworc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Villan [/bold] wrote: A serious question, rather than all the usual comments. Why don't the council look to provide appropriate land for the travellers with waste facilities? Surely this would make sense in the long run as it would stop the travellers trespassing, stop them leaving waste for the land owner or council to clear up and stop annoyance of the local population. We are never going to stop travellers doing what they do, so maybe a change of direction is needed. I would ask how these travellers got on here in the first place, were the gates open or did they cut a lock? PS. Dear Editor, the date has changed from January to June! in the story, when it should be July. Someone needs their eyes testing.[/p][/quote]And they can call it District 11. The way these travelers are managing themselves there is not much difference.[/p][/quote]The council already do...there's been a site near the Worcester Rugby Club. The question is, how many sites are Councils expected to provide, and at whose expense? Do travellers pay tax on their earnings, or pay Council Tax? If not, then why should communities be obliged to pay for amenities for people who simply break the law if they don't? As usual, if the weak and useless government had the sense to turn these people around and send them back to Ireland when they arrived, this discussion and the associated problems would not be the topic of discussion year after year. willing
  • Score: 1

8:04pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Wh1t3Kn1ght says...

No use blaming the police they have limited powers available thanks to the laws which are either conceived or thrown out by the politicians joe public vote into office. Please tell me you people actually vote? Maybe you should voice your concerns of limited powers to your MP. Conversely tomorrow is another day and you will probably complain that our police force have been too heavy handed etc etc
No use blaming the police they have limited powers available thanks to the laws which are either conceived or thrown out by the politicians joe public vote into office. Please tell me you people actually vote? Maybe you should voice your concerns of limited powers to your MP. Conversely tomorrow is another day and you will probably complain that our police force have been too heavy handed etc etc Wh1t3Kn1ght
  • Score: -1
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