NEW Zealanders waste fewer words than they do passes. The All Blacks

manager, John Sturgeon, told me in Dublin yesterday: ''We want to play

Scotland in the final. What's the point in us facing England -- we have

already beaten them in the competition and that wasn't exactly a match

to remember.''

After arriving in Ireland on Monday night the world champions went on

a two-hour training stint yesterday. They don't follow the England line

of punching each other but they don't hold back either.

One of the most active was flanker Michael Jones, who won't even have

a place in the semi-final line-up against Australia at Lansdowne Road,

as his religious beliefs do not permit him to play on a Sunday. ''You

have to stick to what you believe in,'' he said, and you realised you

were talking to a very big man indeed.

Coach Alex ''Grizz'' Wyllie was not too bothered that most of the

locals appear to have decided to support the Wallabies. ''Every neutral

roots against the champions -- we can handle it.''

It was a point I returned to with manager Sturgeon, a 52-year-old

colliery manager who has held his rugby post for the last four years.

Isn't it difficult when the All Blacks are always expected to win?

''Yes, people expect a lot of us, but then we expect a lot of

ourselves. Sometimes if we don't win by 20 points there is a lot of

criticism, much of it unfair, in the media. I suppose it's the same in

Scotland.''

No, no, I assured him, all the Scottish journalists were very

supportive.

Sturgeon is satisfied with the performance of his team so far. ''We

came a hard route, having to play England first. The Americans and the

Italians gave us good games too, and in the quarter-finals the Canadians

showed just how much they had improved.

''In the last World Cup we beat Italy by over 70 points. If the 1991

Italian team was to play their '87 side they would run up as big a

score. That is progress.''

What is he expecting from Australia? ''One heck of a lot of trouble.

We love to hate them, in a friendly way of course, and the team that

wins on Sunday will be the one which can handle the pressure.''

In that department the All Blacks' record is second to none.

I turned his thoughts towards Murrayfield on Saturday. ''I genuinely

believe Scotland can win, but they must play their own game; England

cannot be allowed to dictate the pattern.

''The Scots were most impressive the last time they came to New

Zealand. But I was most disappointed by the way they played at

Twickenham last year.

''You have to spin the ball out against the English. They haven't got

anyone like Gavin Hastings. His brother Scott is another potential match

winner and so is the one we lent you, Sean Lineen.''

We wished our respective countries good luck. ''Who wants to go to

Cardiff for the third place match?'' -- Sturgeon winced at the very

thought. Who indeed?

The All Blacks are treating only minor bumps and bruises, but the

injury saga of Australian captain Nick Farr-Jones goes on. He did some

light training yesterday then told me: ''My knee is much better but now

I am bothered by a twisted ankle. I'll get there.''

Winger David Campese, whose ankle was studied by no fewer than four

specialists, did not take part in training, going instead for a swim.

Nobody expects him to miss the match -- that would be like a Placido

Domingo concert with an understudy.

TELEVISION'S latest sports double act, Steve Smith and Gordon Brown,

head ITV's team for this weekend's World Cup semi-finals. Smith and

Brown have been selected to give expert opinion at both the

Scotland-England and New Zealand-Australia games.

David Kirk will also be at both matches, while former Bath prop Gareth

Chilcott will help out at Murrayfield. Australian Bill Calcraft will

join the team at Lansdowne Road on Sunday.

ITV's head of sport Bob Burrows said :''We are delighted to have put

together a team that has worked superbly. They have all played a

tremendous part in the success of our style of coverage and it's a shame

that this team won't have the chance to continue for the Five Nations

championship.''

Viewing figures for the World Cup quarter-finals, due out today, are

expected to be good.